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I have mirrors from my 65 an 66 Squares and 63 and 69 Notchbacks. Of course there is a chance that one mirror or the other has been changed but I don't think so. My 65 square mirror has a weird reverse hook on the stem. It looks like it should be a coat hanger but faces downwards. It has the 361 part #, most peculiar...My 66 mirror has the extra stub. Based on what I have around here's how it looks to me: -Notches and fasties NEVER got the extra stub on the stem and the stem is shorter than on a corresponding year's squareback mirror. -Up to and including 65 we had brushed aluminum finish mirrors held in place with screws. -66 we get chrome mirrors, still screw in. Squareback mirrors get the extra stub on the stem. -67 I'm not sure but I suspect is the same as 66. -68 we get ivory stem 'breakaway' mirrors. -69 we get day/night mirrors. Beyond 69 I don't know but I believe in 73 there were at least optional black mirrors. Who would've thought this thread could be so complex!?! Andre ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe