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I may be wrong, but isn't heated intake air a good thing? That's why my '87 rabbit sucks air over the exhaust manifold. Not that I'm advocating the empi's over the stock oilbath ... Igshaan -----Original Message----- From: Steven Ayres [mailto:comwest@well.com] Sent: 14 March 2001 09:09 To: type3@vwtype3.org Subject: Re: [T3] empi air cleaners <<<snip>>> Jerrod=> dont like the big, oafy oil bath air cleaner => and the empis are only $20. could you please => list some disadvantages [sp] of them? 2. They take in hot-off-the-block air rather than cool outside air. <<<snip>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org