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The 1500S engines were 8.5:1 CR and needed excessively high octane fuel - Esso Golden Extra used to go into our '64 Squareback to stop it knocking! What do people do now? Is timing retard the only answer? Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Pitch in! Send your pledge of support! mailto:support@vwtype3.org