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Bob - perhaps you don't know the answer to this question because your are not correct, but exactly how much more room do the << sleep-in extenders >> >>give you? Thanks - Wilson "<< sleep-in extenders >> >> I've checked around and found out it is not cheep to replicate, it's no simple hinge. By the way I need help installing these. They are in my car and functional but they don't seem to be in just right. If someone knows these well and sees my car at a show, could you check out my install and give me tips? I go to the Arizona shows and Should be at the VW classic in Cal. Bob" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Pitch in! Send your pledge of support! mailto:support@vwtype3.org