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as toby just reminded me, I have also tried the shower in the cloths after a long hot drive on black vinyl. i think he was starting to worry about his choice of co-pilot at that point (-: -- Brian--\x/64 Notch & 67 Fastback http://www.geocities.com/menacefye/invasion.html Parma, Idaho: Home of the 2002 "Type 3 Invasion" Aug. 17th and 18th ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe