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Try your FLAPS. You can keep an original muffler going for months, maybe years more with some wire reinforcing and exhaust paste! The only thing that kills them really is if the bottom pipes fall apart completely. It sounds as if this is just the result of acids resting in the bottom of the main casing - no big deal, just a hole! Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe