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DUDE! Please keep the list, or at least me, updated on this! If the #1 & #3 J-tubes actually fit the head and clear the lower tin AND the header clears the fan housing then I'm calling Kymco (they're the ones that I got my oil pre-cooling system from). Oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please... Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L, Berg five-speed '95 VW Jetta III GL 2.0L, P-Chipped, Jamex sport suspension Portland, Oregon, http://www.icbm.org/ P.S. Where is "HB"? P.P.S. Maybe I should renew my DB&HVW and VWT subscriptions... >-----Original Message----- >... a fully merged >system with a diameter of 1.5 inches. from KYMCO. if no ones knows you do >now, and if you all ready did and wanted to keep it a secret too bad and >sorry about it. i ordered it friday and got it today Monday (bear in mind i >live in HB). it is HEAVY duty metal. looks good and they only have them >ceramic coated. havent tried to fit it yet but it looks like it should clear >all the cooling and fan shroud stuff.. will fit this weeked and i will let >you know how it goes. >total cost including shipping was 190$ and it is just headers, the only thing >you need is a muffler and that is it. ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org