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if you use a modern unit, like in my 97 mazda, it pulls a whopping 1/4 hp off the engine. i may see it soon in my notch...100F and no top with a bald head can be harsh on 8 hour trips -- Brian-- http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/8328/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Pitch in! Send your pledge of support! mailto:support@vwtype3.org