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Everyone-- My engine has been shipped and it is sitting in "dry dock" waiting for me to pick it up. Yahooooo! 2.3L of easy going daily driving. Should be very relaxing. I'll tell you how the install goes (I'm not doing it). Pics, of course, will be posted somewhere as soon as I find a place to put it. Ned -- As for the Shoptalk forums, don't know much about what happened to them. I heard the service they were using was horribly unstable and they have been looking for the past forever to get them up. Other than that I don't know much. I have a feeling those guys would be a bit more jazzed about a T4 conversion than the Light Siders on the T3 list. I sure do miss the forum... Later, Steve '71 Square (soon 2.3L) PS - see you in my dust, Toby! ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org