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if its a metal body on the relay pliers will twist the small portions that hold the solderboard base in place if its plastic you may jamb an electricians screwdriver in the sides an carefully lever the inside out clean the inside of the relay cover out at the same time. neil verdon 66 sqr on irs pan best among equals rise to the top. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe