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It's beginning to sound a bit too custom for my stocker! I'd probably be better off using something else if it's raining! ;-) I've got most of a couple of main looms so it would be easy to make a tidy fit; not so easy to hide the second stalk though! Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Pitch in! Send your pledge of support! mailto:support@vwtype3.org