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Hi Neil, I just bought a rusty old grey faced, "broken" clock from T3D in UK for #5. I managed to get the hands of by using 2 flat bladed screwdrivers and levering off the edge of the casing on opposite sides of the hands. They popped of quite easily and I didn't damage anything!- wouldn't want to guarantee it though! This clock looked like it had been sitting in a puddle for a while- all rusted up down one side and loads of little black insects inside. I cleaned up the metal work in vinegar to remove the rust, and repainted the bezel parts. When I took off the cover over the mechanism, I found it was one of the later Jaeger transistorised movements. I cleaned the mechy in Isopropyl alcohol in an ultrasonic cleaner and oiled the main generator/escapement shaft and guess what- it works perfectly- haven't tested its accuracy though. Does anyone know if its possible to remove the dial- mines got a little rust discolouration on one edge. I couldn't get it to budge though so will have to live with it for now. Otherwise it looks beautiful with its newly painted silver bezel- can't wait to see it at night all illuminated! Good Luck Mark Seaton Newly obtained Orange and rust 73 fasty- London ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/