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Use what's called "metal prep" or "metal conditioner" for cleaning the rust John, use full strength & scrub w/ wire brush while wet, rinse and dry completely. I like 3M "Heavy Drip-Chek" Sealer for the pinchwelds-excellent stuff,but a bit pricey! Chuck '66 SB ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe