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i thought QPs were supposed to be pretty quiet? how much louder than stock are they? and wouldn't the resonator tips just make it louder?(e.g. a ricer tip on a honda) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/