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the reason i asked is that in motorsports its normally mandortory that you have a manually operable engine kill switch and also one for a severe collision only problem is define servere. what sort of force does it take to trip this switch? neil verdon 66 sqr on irs pan best among equals rise to the top. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe