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apparently the rear sub frame was used in a german artillary peice im trying to find out more from my wifes uncle it was a towed gun and had the engine to assist in final moving into position. mayby this means the german army have a stock of spares somewhere.? neil verdon 66 sqr on irs pan best among equals rise to the top. ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org