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RE: [T3] type4 motor into type3, my journey - ( LOOOONG !! ) but informative.. I hope...



Do you really think a 901 trans is a bad idea? I was thiking it would be
nice- solid 911 Porsche technology, 5th gear, add afactory short-shift kit
and it good to go.... No?

Stieg 

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	My65notch@aol.com [SMTP:My65notch@aol.com]
> Sent:	Sunday, November 14, 1999 8:09 AM
> To:	type3@vwtype3.org
> Subject:	[T3] type4 motor into type3, my journey -  ( LOOOONG !! )
> but informative.. I hope...
> 
> Well all,
> 
> I've received several emails privately off list asking me about my Type4 
> motor conversion into my 'Notch. Letters go from -"hey dude.. you car is
> kewl 
> - tell me everything you did to get this engine into your car !! I want to
> go 
> kick some butts out on the boulevard" to "I am very interested and would
> like 
> whatever feedback you've got"
> 
> So, for everyone involved... here we go.......
> 
> ( some of this letter is quoted verbatim to a letter I sent to 
> flat4robb@aol.com... the names have been changed to protect the
> innocent..;)
> 
> << motor and trans real cheap is this a viable option for a 70' square ?
> >>
> 
> 
> is this a viable option ?........hmmmmm....... I get this question posed
> to 
> me quite often. I guess a lot of it depends on your resources. Yes, the
> motor 
> ( physically - the block ) will bolt right up. Is the motor out of a 914
> or a 
> bus ? did you get any tin ? There will need to be some small modifications
> to 
> the tin either way. You're going to learn all about the wiring schematic
> on 
> your square ( as the t4's use an alternator ) I spent the majority of last
> 
> weekend pulling new wires and kind of building a new wiring loom from the
> alt 
> to the regulator. Ummm... let's see..... ah, intake manifolds... I had a
> set 
> built for me by a company in California so that the carbs would still fit 
> under the decklid - not cheap - and - it was only the second set of these 
> manifolds that they had made - the other set was for a HotVW's article
> back 
> in '89 - your only other option is to use type4 manifolds and leave the 
> decklid off as they stick up too far ( or maybe try to retrofit the FI -
> if 
> your square is FI then this is a VERY viable alternative ! ). Exhaust.....
> 
> nothing.. and I mean NOTHING is made to fit ! nobody sells type4 ( 411/412
> ) 
> performance exhaust's and the bus exhausts fit but you have to shorten the
> 
> Jpipes - or heater boxes if you really -REALLY want heat - but then you'll
> 
> have to find a way to make them work - my notch is a "summer only" car so
> I 
> didn't worry about heater boxes - and yes - I used a bus exhaust. Flywheel
> 
> and clutch are stock bus parts - 215mm - but you have to have the flywheel
> 
> modified ( have a bearing pressed into the center of the flywheel - to 
> support the input shaft from the gearbox ), throwout bearing is different
> but 
> fits. 
> You'll need to fabricate engine hanger brackets.
> Don't get me wrong - I'm not trying to talk you out of this !! it's just
> not 
> a weekend - bolt-in sort of thing - nor - not for the faint of heart. No 
> cutting of stock sheet metal is required.
> If you need any assistance feel free to get ahold of me - I'll be glad to 
> help - just realize what you're getting into. I took this entire winter to
> do 
> my project - it also helps to have an extra case w/ P's & C's and heads on
> it 
> ( empty - no crank etc. ) to bolt in the car to do "fittings" with. That's
> 
> where I am right now - I have about 8 or 9 type4 motors sitting around in 
> storage and I just pulled an empty case - slapped some empty cylinders on
> it 
> w/ some junk heads and bolted it in to fit the exhaust and engine hanger 
> brackets. I just took my case that I'm going to build for the car - to the
> 
> polisher yesterday - I'm going to have him polish the top of the case -
> only 
> the part you can see with the decklid up.
> 
> 
> <<  just came into a 2.0 914 motor and trans real cheap >>
> 
> the gearbox is good for nothing to us - you may be able to sell it to a
> bus 
> guy or a dunebuggy guy - but it's of no use to a type3. A better option is
> to 
> go through and strengthen your stock gearbox as the ratios are very
> favorable 
> for this kind of swap. I put in heavy duty 1st & 2nd ( all stock gearing )
> 
> welded 3rd & 4th and put in extra spider gears and a beef-a-diff.
> Also the cases are durn near indestructible - I usually degrease them and 
> then have the outside of the case blasted with steel shot.
> I'm just waiting for the case to came back from the polisher and I still
> need 
> to finish welding my Jpipes - they need to be shortened an inch to get the
> 
> bus exhaust to tuck in behind the apron.
> 
> 
> I think that this pretty much outlines what's involved. If anyone has any 
> further questions - either post to the list or email me.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 65 Notch ( with Type4 POWER )
> 65 Bug
> my65notch@aol.com
> http://users.aol.com/my65notch/index.htm
> 
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