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NO ME MANDEN MAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! type3-d-request@vwtype3.org wrote: > Subject: > > type3-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 289 > > Today's Topics: > RE: [T3] Swamp Cooler [ James MacNaughton <jmac@uglyducklin ] > Re: [T3] Wheels and tyres, etc. [ Per Lindgren <lindgre@online.no> ] > Re: [T3] Wheels and tyres, etc. [ Per Lindgren <lindgre@online.no> ] > Re: [T3] Building the PERFECT beast [ "Syncroman" <syncroman@wa.freei.net ] > [T3] VW shows [ Marlin Viss <mrlnvss@dordt.edu> ] > Re: [T3] VW shows [ OurVWs@aol.com ] > Re: [T3] VW shows [ OurVWs@aol.com ] > [T3] Shocks and my butt [ The Phantom Menace <vwfye@micron.ne ] > [T3] Hazet tool kit - will it fit? [ Dave Burden <Dave.Burden@digital.co ] > [T3] Portland VW show [ The Phantom Menace <vwfye@micron.ne ] > RE: [T3] Portl" how [ "Erkson, Toby" <toby.erkson@intel.c ] > Re: [T3] Yellow Band on Rear Torsion [ "Dave Hall" <dave@hallvw.clara.co.u ] > Re: [T3] Wheels and tyres, etc. [ "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org> ] > [T3] window,thanx,name please? [ "Stewart McClelland" <stewart@bedfo ] > Re: [T3] window,thanx,name please? [ Karl Samuelson <ksam2@netzero.net> ] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: RE: [T3] Swamp Cooler > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:18:58 -0700 > From: James MacNaughton <jmac@uglyduckling.com> > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > I remember a headline from the 'Times I saw years ago... > > ........'Britain Sizzles in the 70s' > > Must be nice. It'll be 97F today. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Hall [SMTP:dave@hallvw.clara.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 4:23 PM > To: type3@vwtype3.org > Subject: Re: [T3] Swamp Cooler > > Who cares if it works in the UK? It doesn't get hot enough to need > to > ;-). The camper vans sometimes had an evaporator for a coolbox. > > Dave. > UK VW Type 3&4 Club > http://www.hallvw.clara.net/ > -----Original Message----- > From: James MacNaughton <jmac@uglyduckling.com> > To: type3@vwtype3.org <type3@vwtype3.org> > Date: 18 May 1999 23:02 > Subject: RE: [T3] Swamp Cooler > > >That's kinda funny. > > > >Mark's obviously never been to the Southwest. Ah, well. A swamp > cooler > is > >a device that humidifies and circulates air. They only work in > drier > >climates. If you're actually in the UK, it probably won't work too > well > for > >you. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subjei [T3] Wheels and tyres, etc. > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:42:24 +0200 > From: Per Lindgren <lindgre@online.no> > To: Forsman/Harris <akatieh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> > CC: type3@vwtype3.org > > Forsman/Harris wrote: > > > Per wrote: "The Bug wheels would be a compromise for the better, IMHO. > > The Bug wheels have a greater offset, making for a wider track, with > > better performance." > > > > Per, I think you mean to say that the bug wheels have LESS offset, and > > therefore, a wider track. The more that the center of the wheel is set > > OUTward off center in the wheel's rim, the more INward in the wheel well > > the rim (and tire) will be. > > Of course, it must have been late when I wrote it :-) > > > > > > > Also, be aware that not all "beetle" wheels are the same offset. Most > > (late beetles?) are 34 mm, if my recollection is correct; but, some have > > high offsets like the "type3" wheels. e.g. my '74 beetle had high > > offset "sport" 41/2 Js (like 41 or 42mm, or somthing like that), which > > are not, according to the Bentley, stock. (Anybody want these? I like > > hubcaps.) I can check some of these values from the beetle Bentley if > > anybody is interested. In fact, it may be misleading to just say > > "beetle" wheel, or, "type3" wheel, since they are all interchangeable, > > as long as proper adjustments are made to avoid rubbing; so that you can > > take your pick of what you want, which was your point, I think, no? > > Actually, a 34mm Beetle wheel should not rub as much as the 46mm Type3 > wheel, because the rim and tire is placed more away form the inner wheel > well. It can rub in the fender, however. I have not tried any of these on my > Type3 yet, I have the wheel, but not any tire on them. > > > > > > > Offset affects bearing wear, I think; but I don't know the ins and outs > > of this matter. > > That depends of how much difference there is from stock. If you exceed 20mm > difference, the bearings can suffer from excessive wear. > > PerL > 73 Variant L > > ----------------------UX ------------------------------------- > Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [T3] Wheels and tyres, etc. > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:42:31 +0200 > From: Per Lindgren <lindgre@online.no> > To: type3@vwtype3.org > CC: type3@vwtype3.org > > Jim Adney wrote: > > > This is true, but the stresses on the bearings is also changed > > because of the cantilevered load. On a unloaded car this is no > > problem, but a loaded car will be a different story, and if you do > > much of it you may start to have bearing failures. > > Yes, the stress is bigger on the bearings when you use wider wheels, but if you > change the 46 wheels for the 40 wheels, the stress is not big enough to cause > any premature wear of the bearings. Only if you exceed an offset of 20 less > than the original, you can get this effect. The bearings should not have too > much problem, the bearings are the same as those in the Beetle, aren't they? > > PerL > 73 Variant L > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [T3] Building the PERFECT beast > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:45:31 -0700 > From: "Syncroman" <syncroman@wa.freei.net> > To: "Type 3 list" <type3@vwtype3.org> > > The 88's will give you a noticable improvement and are worth the extra > money. While displacement is usually a winner when it comes to horsepower, > the VW engine responds equally well to head improvements to improve air > flow. Minor changes to the combution chamber and ports can give you big > gains with the proper carburation. If you plan on keeping this car for more > than a couple of years, spend twice the price and get a motor that works > twice as good and lasts twice as long...seriously. Stick with the Berg > recommendations and parts, and you won't be disap[ > > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > Nathan Jacobsen > '62 NB > '69 SB M/T > syncroman@wa.freei.net > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > Well I just got off the phone with Tim at Gene Berg.. > > I want to go with the 1776 engine kit but he really reccomends against > > using the 90.5's with the type3's. Whats the opinions here considering > > that I want decent reliability and longevity for this enormous wad of cash > > Im about to spend?? > > > > If I go with the 88's is it worth this huge wad of cash for the increased > > performance over the stock motor?? i can build a sweet stock motor for > > about half what I'm spending. > > > > I want quality and I know Berg has it I just dont want to spend lots of > > dough if I can do as well elsewhere. > > > > remember, Im not Vader, but a little darkness is still in my blood. > > > > Keith > > topnotchresto@worldnet.att.net > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [T3] VW shows > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:03:27 -0700 > From: Marlin Viss <mrlnvss@dordt.edu> > To: "type3@vwtype3.org" <type3@vwtype3.org> > > Anyone know of a site that has a calander of VW events? Specifically > those in California? Seems to me I found a good one once, but didn't > bookmark it. > > Thanks, > > Marlin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [T3] VW shows > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:04:21 EDT > From: OurVWs@aol.com > To: mrlnvss@dordt.edu, type3@vwtype3.org > > I am begining to put one of those together on our site. It has some sites > listed already (by state). Check it out. I add a few events every day (as I > have time). > > Also, if you know of any events that should be there, or any Cruise Nights > !D togethers), let me know, and I will make sure they are posted within > 48 hours. > > Thanks Much > > Page (& Peggy) > Mission Viejo, CA > E-Mail: OurVWs@aol.com > Web: http://members.aol.com/OurVWs > '68 Squareback - 1776 w/Dual Webers > '66 Kombi - Stock - For Now :) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [T3] VW shows > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:05:21 EDT > From: OurVWs@aol.com > To: mrlnvss@dordt.edu, type3@vwtype3.org > > Forgot to include this :) > > Web site is: > > http://members.aol.com/OurVWs > > Page (& Peggy) > Mission Viejo, CA > E-Mail: OurVWs@aol.com > Web: http://members.aol.com/OurVWs > '68 Squareback - 1776 w/Dual Webers > '66 Kombi - Stock - For Now :) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [T3] Shocks and my butt > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:00:23 -0600 > From: The Phantom Menace <vwfye@micron.net> > To: "A VW club!" <type3@vwtype3.org>, A VW club <vwmagazine@listbot.com>, > Dave Cormack <kaferdave@aol.com> > > Finally got an opportunity to install my Bilistein shocks on the rear of > my car! The previous shocks were a pair of "Kick Your Butt" gas > adjust. What a difference! The new shocks actually absorb the > bumps...Even speed bumps are easier. As to cornering, they are great > too. The secret is the way they load up, they are softer for the first > 2 inches of travel then they stiffen up like the KYBs start out. I am > very happy with my new addition!!! > > Also, on the issue of new rubber vs. stainless brake lines. I have use > both extensively in both car and motorcyle applications and the > stainless lines have always out performed the rubber lines. > However...for everyday, non-a_E e driving, the new rubber lines are > just what you need. I tend to push hard in the turns and in the hills, > so I use the stainless, but they aren't necessary for my trips to the > store. > > Vader > 64 Menace > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [T3] Hazet tool kit - will it fit? > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:18:58 -0400 > From: Dave Burden <Dave.Burden@digital.com> > To: "'type3@vwtype3.org'" <type3@vwtype3.org> > > Just wondering if anyone has a Hazet tool kit in/on the spare wheel > of their Type III. They seem to be designed to be used in the Type I > since they are very visible. Obviously you would not see it > as much in a Type III, but will one even fit? > > Thanks, > Dave Burden > ------------------------- > '71 Squareback > '72 Bus (7 passenger) > '72 Bus (future camper conversion) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [T3] Portland VW show > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:26:42 -0600 > From: The Phantom Menace <vwfye@micron.net> > To: "A VW club!" <type3@vwtype3.org> > > Who or whom is going to the Portland show on the 5th of June besides > myself and Toby E.? I will have the Roadster there with me and I am > looking forward to meeting others. > > Vader > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: RE: [T3] Portland VW show > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:30:18 -0700 > From: "Erkson, Toby" <toby.erkson@intel.com> > To: A VW club! <type3@vwtype3.org> > > FYI to everyone else: I'll be there but won't be showing. I will have my > Gz hough :) I'll be helping with the activities. > > Toby Erkson > air_cooled_nut@pobox.com <-- Please use this address for email > '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L, Berg five-speed > '95 VW Jetta III GL 2.0L, P-Chipped, Jamex sport suspension > Portland, Oregon, http://www.pobox.com/~toby_erkson/ > > >-----Original Message----- > >Who or whom is going to the Portland show on the 5th of June besides > >myself and Toby E.? I will have the Roadster there with me and I am > >looking forward to meeting others. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [T3] Yellow Band on Rear Torsion Bars > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 21:55:32 +0100 > From: "Dave Hall" <dave@hallvw.clara.co.uk> > To: <type3@vwtype3.org> > > Not the torsion bars in fact, but as I think I said the stabiliser bars > (anti-roll bars) are thicker on the Squareback (13.7 mm compared with 11 mm > for F/B, Notch and T3 Ghia). > > Dave. > UK VW Type 3&4 Club > http://www.hallvw.clara.net/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Forsman/Harris <akatieh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> > To: type3@vwtype3.org <type3@vwtype3.org> > Date: 19 May 1999 18:39 > Subject: Re: [T3] Yellow Band on Rear Torsion Bars > > >Are the torsion bars on the front of Squarebacks also paint-marked / > >large-diameter / high-tension, and thus, likewise suitable for upgrading > >fast/notchbacks? > > > >Eric Forsman > >Baltimore, MD > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [T3] Wheels and tyres, etc. > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 21:04:58 -0600 > From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org> > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > On 20 May 99, at 17:42, Per Lindgren wrote: > > > Jim Adney wrote: > > > > z7 s true, but the stresses on the bearings is also changed > > > because of the cantilevered load. On a unloaded car this is no > > > problem, but a loaded car will be a different story, and if you do > > > much of it you may start to have bearing failures. > > > > Yes, the stress is bigger on the bearings when you use wider wheels, but if you > > change the 46 wheels for the 40 wheels, the stress is not big enough to cause > > any premature wear of the bearings. Only if you exceed an offset of 20 less > > than the original, you can get this effect. The bearings should not have too > > much problem, the bearings are the same as those in the Beetle, aren't they? > > The Bentley manual warns against using Beetle wheels because of the > extra stress on the bearings. I think that is still sound advice. Of > course it is true that the stress goes up as the offset goes down, > but there is no reason to expect there to be a sudden failure > threshold. > > You are correct that the Beetles use exactly the same bearings (in > the same year), but the beetle is lighter and the bearing stress is a > function of both offset and weight (as well as driving habits, and > road conditions.) If you NEVER plan to carry anything close to the > rated load in your car then there can be no doubt that you will be > just fine, but who can say that with assurance. > > I'd like to point out that the main place where this is a problem is > for the rear bearings on an IRS car. I think the load on the fronts > is still somewhere between the bearings and the load on the outer > swing axle bearing changes only very slowly with offset. > > With the IRS rears, the outer bearing is already a roller bearing > because a ball bearing can't take the stress, even on a Beetle. The > geometry of this bearing arrangement is such that a small change in > offset makes a large change in the bearing stress. These are the > wheels that carry most of the weight anyway, and this is also the > place that gets extra load when you carry any cargo. They are alsZ nsive and a royal pain to replace. > > That said, I'll have to admit that I have never seen a rear IRS > bearing fail, but that outer front bearings fail commonly. The outer > fronts will see more stress with less offset, so this problem should > worsten. > > Jim > - > ******************************* > Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org > Madison, Wisconsin, USA > ******************************* > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [T3] window,thanx,name please? > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:33:14 -0400 > From: "Stewart McClelland" <stewart@bedford.net> > To: "A VW club!" <type3@vwtype3.org> > > Does anybody know where I can get a window seal(rubber) for the back window > of a 1968 VW fastback? I can't find the right one for my car!! > > Also thanx again for helping me find an inusrance company so I could get my > car on the road!! I went with geico because that was the cheapest rate for > me. I found out there were a lot of other companies that do insure older > cars in Pennsylvania such as state farm, progressive, all state, and > nationwide. and if i was a veteran there are many discounts and cheap > insurance companies for veterans. Thanx again for your help. > > I need one last thing to finnish my car! I need a name for it! My last car > was Marie(named after the little old lady that owned it b4 me and passed > away) It is a green fastback with white interior. I will take any > suggestions!! Thanx > > Proud owner of a VW > > Vw Drivers Wanted! (Hired) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [T3] window,thanx,name please? > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 23:27:37 -0500 > From: Karl Samuelson <ksam2@netzero.net> > To: Stewart McCLx <stewart@bedford.net> > CC: "A VW club!" <type3@vwtype3.org> > > Check out http://billandsteves.com/ in Californina for the window. > > As for a name for your Fastback, how about "Daisy". It's Granny's "REAL" name > on the Beverly Hillbillies, or how about "Elly May", "Jethro", "Jed". > > I named my Squareback "Mr. Haney", after the country con-artist from Green > Acres fame, > just to remind myself of the money I lost on the LEMON motor I bought from > ___ in California. > > karl > > ________________________________________________________ > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe