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Okay, here's the deal. A friend gave me a 912 5-speed. It looks like it'll work w/ a little creative engineering. Since I've done nothing to the car since putting the body back on the pan 11 years ago I'm gonna go ahead and pull it back off to make the trans adaption easier. Now here's the real question. Do you guys think that the bumper mounting brackets are strong enough to support the car on a rotisserie? I've got a student in the drafting dept drawing my plans-then a welding students is gonna put it together for me. Any suggestions from all those engineers out there? Thanks, Dave Buckholts --,Qôñ --------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org