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There *are* some companies that make DOT-approved braided stainless lines. No doubt you'd pay more for them than you would for the everyday variety (which IMO are already a tad expensive), but the benefits are definitely there...I mean, when I had them on my superbeetle braking firmness was dramatically improved...then again, maybe the rubber hoses were just old and flexing a bit...replacement rubber lines may have firmed up the pedal as well, but who knows. Just my $0.02... -Doug 73 fasty douglas_brashear@amsinc,com To: type3@vwtype3.org cc: (bcc: Douglas Brashear/AMS/AMSINC) Subject: Re: braided steel lines (was brake rebuilding, plus ...) > 2)Where can I get braided steel lines? I agree with Jim's assessment. These things are for people who want to win the best undercarrriage class at some show. But as was pointed out in a recent thread about these on the type2 list, these things are often, if not always, not DOT approved, and you've got nobody to assure their quality. Also, if your brakes were to fail, and the other guy's lawyer/insurance company spots those shiney suckers (which is the point, right), you could be in for some trouble. Eric Forsman, '73 Square Baltimore, MD cc replies to: forsman/hËóo u.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe