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> changed my ATF today and got a bit of a surprise: the pan was full of bits * of metal. >>>Not only is tm€Ë good, this is in fact *all bad*. I'm going to make a prediction here, somewhat like Nostradamus; you're going to begin experiencing a marked lack of performance. Your transmission is going to begin slipping, and you're going to develop a hi-revving condition between gears, as the transmission 'hunts' for the next gear. Finally, you're going to experience shifting the car into reverse and drive, and waiting as the transmission tries to build up enough friction to clunk into gear. Here's why: as strange as it sounds, that metal crap that was in your transmission is the remnants of your bands; the clutches that give your transmission 'grip.' While it was still in suspension, your transmission was able to continue to ecru *some* friction, due to the particulate matter still in the fluid. Now, without that matter in the fluid, you're going to have nice, shiny copper and brass bits of metal rubbing against one another, attempting to behave like clutches. You've really only got two choices here; that's replace the fluid that you drained out (put the chunky-salsa version of your ATF back in), or go and find yourself a VW transmission shop *today.* You're not going to get 500 miles out of your transmission, and you *absolutely* should not go on any trips till you get that replaced. Sorry for the bad news lad, but my best friend growing up owned a transmission shop, and I wound up doing a $1900 rebuild on a 1959 Pontiac, as I got rid of the contaminated ATF. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe