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Well, dub me gullible. Brian Fye gave me the link to DB&HotVWs and they show how they fooled everyone. Toby "Gee, I didn't think I could feel any stupider" Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com <-- Please use this address for email '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L, Berg five-speed '75 Porsche 914 1.8L, R.I.P., ORPCA member '95 VW Jetta III GL 2.0L, P-Chipped, Jamex sport suspension Portland, Oregon, http://www.pobox.com/~toby_erkson/ > -----Original Message----- > http://www.hotvws.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org