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Yeah, it was, I just didn't get that detailed in my table diagram but if you read the first paragraph I say to release the clutch. I know why this works but explaining it... Basically, shifting to neutral and bringing up the rpm gets the flywheel and parts moving at the same speed as the engine so when you shift to the lower gear everything is spinning at (roughly) the same rpm -- to the tranny it *appears* that you are shifting at a standstill with the engine off. Everything is moving in synchronicity, you are acting as a synchro for the tranny. Toby Erkson ID<Õ ed_nut@pobox.com <-- Please use this address for email '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L, Berg five-speed '75 Porsche 914 1.8L, R.I.P., ORPCA member '95 VW Jetta III GL 2.0L, P-Chipped, Jamex sport suspension Portland, Oregon, http://www.pobox.com/~toby_erkson/ > -----Original Message----- > I'm not sure that Toby is describing double clutching. > Between the two > gears, you actually let out the clutch while in neutral > (double clutch)... > I hesitate w/ the above statement because I don't > understand mechanicaly why > the double clutch motion works. Anyone? ... ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org