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PhilN=> do they all have ball-joints from new? Yup. => is there any type 3 specific book I could buy? The Bentley manual is probably the best of the few still in print. Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ '66 KGhia 1600 ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org