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How many type 4 cars have you seen ??? I have seen quite a few, 411s 412s, and I have never, ever seen a manual type 4 car -- unless you consider the 914 a type 4 car...... I guy up here around my neck of the woods has a 69 type 4 car ( he want $1000 for it, not even worth it for parts and it is automatic....... although I would also be inclined to say that it is the engine responsible for the power in them, a type 4 1.7 liter puts out 80 hp, compare to the type 2 1.7 that puts out 67 hp... due to differences in compression ratios....... for type three content....... I sat in my squareback today... I can't wait to take it out again.... it was actually mild enough to open a door ( it has been iced shut for a little while) Todd Daley 71 Squareback 71 Fastback "Erkson, Toby" wrote: > ...or the engine put out more horsepower, either being a 1.7L, 1.8L or a > 2.0L. I haven't seen a lot of T4s but the majority were manual tranny. > Toby Erkson > air_cooled_nut@pobox.com > (This is my preferred address) > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/