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Okay, chances are very good that it's not the electronic points as you admit this is the first time you've started the car in the (cold) winter. First, if the electronic points are suspect you should put the stock (mechanical) points back in, reset the timing and point gap, and see what happens. If nothing changes then you know the points aren't suspect and you can put the electronic points back in. Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com <-- Please use this address for email '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L, Berg five-speed '75 Porsche 914 1.8L, ORPCA member '95 VW Jetta GL 2.0L, boringly bone-stock Portland, Oregon, http://www.pobox.com/~toby_erkson/ > -----Original Message----- > I do have to > admit that this is the first time i've ran the car this > winter in cold > Indiana because i don't want the salt eating my car alive, ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org