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Just for curiosity's sake, what make is it? I think what I had originally on the SB ten years back was the same as what you're describing, wish I had it back. Mine had the telescoping tubes from the heater boxes, the 2-4 tubes pivoted on a straight section of pipe that they fed into, muffler flange was attached to the straight section. Mine didn't have any muffler clamps, the tubes were close enough that carbon soon filled the gap. Probably would have been a better setup if I had put clamps on it, but I left it as I got it and it passed CA smog. Was really easy to take off, too. I got rid of it because the muffler went and no one in the area had one to fit. Now that I've got welding equipment available, I'd cut the flange loose and weld on a thicker one oriented to fit the available mufflers. If you clamp it, just use standard muffler clamps with the u-bolt, not the VW ones. The thing about this setup was that it was pretty much independant of the engine width, I've had a terrible time trying to get Bugpack headers to fit(all I could get) and mine is about as stock an engine as it gets. Had to get the torch out and modify some of the bends. Also had to cobble up some method of passing air to the heater boxes, but that's another story. Make sure you support those dual mufflers, they'll break things vibrating if you don't. On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 13:22:37 -0600, you wrote: >i'm trying to install a dual QP muffler setup on my newly rebuilt 1776cc >engine(finally!) you know, the kind where the mufflers are seperate from >the headder. my new problem is: the pipes that lead from the heater boxes >are also seprate form the pipes that bolt up to the back of the heads, but >with no gaskets or bolts (or instructions, for that matter) > the tubes just slide into the colector/header, not even that snug of a fit, >but there is like four inches of one inside the other. do i need to weld >these together or is it designed like this so i can get it on and off the >engine. > >brandon >73 square, almost there > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe