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Type 3 front ends OFTEN rust out, you jsut havent found the rust yet, its under the clamps in the corners, you'll see it when the beam comes down. what you want to save is the torsion arms, bearings and bushings and the bars too, only if the stuff is good. Keith ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org