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It gets more complex. I found the relay which controls the fuel pump under the dash where Jim said. There are four wires, two red ones and block connector with a blue/yellow and brown wire. This relay clicks when the fuel pump turns over... it also clicks when the hazard warning lights are on/off/on/off/on/off... aedan 1971 VW fastback 1989 Volvo 240GL Our enemies shall talk themselves to death, and we will bury them with their own confusion. We shall prevail. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/