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The holes (actually, they're more like slits) are at the front and at the back of the door. Poke around with a small screwdriver. You'll find them. These NEED to be free-draining. Having these holes open is the ONLY way to keep water out. The scrapers aren't really useless--they keep the window in place so it won't rattle around, but they can't keep water out. -Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe