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This topic has been brought up before several times. I myself did some limited research into the idea, using the 'type III.org logo' that Greg has on the intro to the web page. I think the design should include some reference to that (maybe a line-art reproduction of it), and definitely have the www.vwtype3.org page reference on it. Now here's the deal. We all put up some bucks to get the page rolling, now it's time to get some ID for the 'analog' world (as Steven Ayres put it). I'll start the bidding, I am hereby putting up the proceeds from my first fender sale (a whopping $75.00!) to help finance the t-shirt project. We'll need a funds collector/project coordinator type person, and an artiste' (or somebody with a buddy that can draw). We could even make it a 'contest' with the list voting on design submissions, majority rules. Whattaya tink? Jake "has anyone else noticed how I cause more trouble when I'm not near my type IIIs?" Kooser ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org