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James, you make a valid point. We need to remember that cars made for Europeans are made differently than how American cars are; I mean in the utility/ergonomics/human sense. The expression is a broad statement, not pointing to every single vehicle made by whoever. Americans got ego and it's represented in the early cars: Big estates, huge chrome bumpers and even bigger engines, all to go with a large, spacious country. Europeans are more subdued and focused on, well, it's hard for me to verbalize...economy. Innovation vs. innovation the European automotive engineering community has progressed at a much quicker rate than the Americans. Our little T3 was the first production vehicle for the masses with fuel injection. I can still remember American car ads touting FI as a selling point in the late '70s/early '80s when many Euro cars were already FI and it was no big deal. Differences in exterior design shows that the Atlantic does more than separate our continents. Looking at the American cars now I can see they are progressing well. They are slowly backing away from the big cars of the past and making more economical boxes. They are also making them more sportier, with improved engine management, suspension designs and body stylings. In the broad scope of autos I see nothing better or worse about American or European (or Asian) automobiles, each has its following, its place, to the tastes of the individual. If I had to make a sudden decision on an auto maker without getting my choice of vehicle (it'll never happen, this is just an example), I would pick American for a cruising ride and European for a sporty ride. One of my favorite American cars: My friend Marty had a '68 Chevy Camaro Super Sport with a 3-something small block and a Rock Crusher tranny (whatever the hell that is, it sounded cool and the throw was incredibly small!). Boy, that car had speed like nobody's business and the best set of full hips (yes, like a female's) my eyes have ever gazed (Porsche 930 gets the best European hips :) Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com <-- Please use this address for email '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L, Berg five-speed '75 Porsche 914 1.8L, ORPCA member Portland, Oregon, http://www.pobox.com/~toby_erkson/ >-----Original Message----- >...I've heard this >a million, >million times before... > > "In Europe, you're ON THE ROAD. In America, you're IN THE CAR." > >They've said that for 40 years, and as a driver, I'm a little >tired of it... ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe