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On 12 Nov 98, at 8:19, James MacNaughton wrote: > Secondly, I have been told that starting in the early 70's to just about > 1980, as a cost-cutting effort (flagging sales because of rapidly > disheartening air-cooled buyers 8^) ), European car makers began buying > cheaper grade steel; 'seconds,' if you will. > > Any truth to the lower grade steel thing? I think there is probably little support for the second class steel question. Changes in paint and metal thickness are much more likely to be responsible. The red herring of the inferiority of recycled materials continues to dominate some people's thinking, but steel recycles perfectly, and in fact I think ALL our steel contains some fraction of recycled metal. I believe all the high temp melting point materials recycle well: steel, copper, alum, glass. The lower temp materials like plastics are more difficult. It's largely a question of what happens to the trash that comes with the old stuff. Paper labels on steel cans are long gone before the steel melts, but they are still intact at when the plastics melt. Jim - ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ******************************* ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org