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Don't remove the rear apron unless you REALLY want it gone. It does a very good job at keeping crap from swirling up onto the rear hatch/glass area -- trust me here. If you want to keep the stinger a little more quieter you can install a glass pack baffle. Toby Erkson email@example.com <-- Please use this address for email '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L, Berg five-speed '75 Porsche 914 1.8L, ORPCA member Portland, Oregon, http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8501/ >-----Original Message----- I really dont want to cut it, but my Big Flange stinger is >REally cool! but sometimes I want it QUIET.. oh well Please >help if any of >ya can.. Or well if I cant figure a way out to put it in >without cutting..