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Uh, Keith, since when was a four-speed-since-day-one ACVW supposed to have a five-speed? Never. Thus enter the *custom* element and the foibles that it presents. I do admit that I am not accustomed to shifting into 5th so it does feel awkward. Okay, from what I can determine the five-speed shift pattern feels like a standard five. You know how when you shift from 2nd to 3rd you sorta push right while pushing up? Well, you do the same thing shifting from 4th to 5th, it just so happens you have to push the lock-out button as well. Shifter moves up and out of 4th, hits the neutral gate and, since the button is pushed, slides over to the right and up into 5th. Hey Kenik, how about you, what's your input? Is it durable? Have you ever know a GBE part not to be? I haven't. The gearbox was built by Harold Carter and he came highly recommended by GBE and my engine builder. The man is one of the best tranny builders and has done many of the five-speed kits for GBE. The one item I do not like it the shift handle itself. I'm used to a smooth and contoured Hurst grip and the GBE is too square. The edges are rounded but the shape is definitely rectangular and not comfortable. When I submit the tranny mount plans to Clyde I will also submit a critique and see what can be done about removing the 5th gear lock-out and rounding out the handle. Still, I'm very, very happy with what I've got and that's what counts in the end. Toby Erkson email@example.com <-- Please use this address for email '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L '75 Porsche 914 1.8L, ORPCA member Portland, Oregon, http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8501/ >-----Original Message----- >Wow.. If I spent the mega-bucks for a 5 speed and got a shift >pattern like that >Ida been PISSED! Looks like a cluge to use, is it durable?? >Close ratio gears >is really needed but why not the standard shift pattern??