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There's a relay under the dash, looks just like the small one under the back seat (actually, they are identical) It basically lets the computer turn the fuel pump on and off- when you first turn the key on, the back one will click, then the front one, you may hear your fuel pump (my new one is noisy- my old one wasn't) for a second, then anothing click and the pump will turn off. So its: turn key back click front click wrrrrrrr front click The pump will also run while your starting- but I can never hear it over the engine.... if you don't always have a wrrrrr, then its a fuel pump problem. Have you checked your fuel pressure lately? Don't feel bad- me neither. if you don't always get the click, then check the connector in the engine. Its a single lead in a weird rectangular box that connects a wire than enters the loom at about 11:00 snoopy-and-the-red-baron-time. Can you tell I did this day before yesterday? :) -rj > -----Original Message----- > From: HBakr@aol.com [SMTP:HBakr@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 1998 2:11 PM > To: TYPE3@vwtype3.org > Subject: rough idle and Relays! > > Greetings to all; > my stock 70 sq started idling irratic coupla weeks ago,so I figured > bad fuel > filter and promptly replaced it. Well, it still runs like crap! Now > here a few > observations from someone who is very new to T3's or FI and its relays > & > stuff,so pls forgive my ignorance here. > - Acts up almost always when warm, usualy 1st sign is bad > idle,followed by > irratic running and sometimes out right quitting. Wait 1/2 hr or so > and it > starts sgain. > -While all this is happening you hear.. klick..klick somewhere under > the dash > now and then. > -When it decides to run ok,usually you hear klick..vooom at first > click of > ignition > when it dont feel like it you hear klick but no vooom, then you know > it wont > start. > Is it the Relay(s)? where is it? can I replace it? who has it? any > clues > appreciated, this baby is my daily driver. TIA > HB