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Please take me off of your list. PLEASE !!!!!!!! type3-d-request@vwtype3.org wrote: > > Subject: > > type3-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 156 > > Today's Topics: > RE: Rocker Panel Trim Clips. [ RJ Latherow <RJLATHEROW@atlantic1.c ] > Re: Rocker Panel Trim Clips. [ HBakr@aol.com ] > Re: unsubscribe [ "Philip Dillard" <dillardp@edu-suu- ] > RE: Rocker Panel Trim Clips. [ ccandgc@marinternet.com (Chad) ] > Re: Rocker Panel Trim Clips. [ Dana Hall <dhall@inco.net> ] > FW: Rocker Panel Trim Clips. [ Gurrola_J <Gurrola_J@BLS.GOV> ] > Re: Rocker Panel Trim Clips. [ USMC3011@aol.com ] > mexican engine questions! [ ZzZxXt3@aol.com ] > Re: mexican engine questions! [ "Damian M. Clement" <damian@vwtype3 ] > Re: UGH!!!!! doing that vin number t [ noddaz@juno.com (scott a keck) ] > fuel overflow hose [ Sonny8oy@aol.com ] > stainless brake hoses [ Sonny8oy@aol.com ] > Carb Rebuild [ Gurrola_J <Gurrola_J@BLS.GOV> ] > Re: stainless brake hoses [ Toby Basiliko <toby@wolfenet.com> ] > rocker panel trm clips found. [ Street Bugs <strtbug@ibm.net> ] > Re: fuel overflow hose [ "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org> ] > Re: Fiberglass bashing ( a bit long [ "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org> ] > Re: questions.... [ "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org> ] > Re: stainless brake hoses [ "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org> ] > Re: questions.... [ ccandgc@marinternet.com (Chad) ] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: RE: Rocker Panel Trim Clips. > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:30:48 -0400 > From: RJ Latherow <RJLATHEROW@atlantic1.com> > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > Would those of a late model work??? if so, I've got a 71 square's > worth.... > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dana Hall [SMTP:dhall@inco.net] > > Sent: Friday, July 10, 1998 12:29 PM > > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > Subject: Rocker Panel Trim Clips. > > > > OK... I have exhausted all of my avenues and had my dreams dashed > > twice > > now attempting to find the trim clips for my 65 Notch. A local Body > > shop > > supply store told me they could order them (BMW look alikes) twice and > > so far they have been backordered for months with little chance of > > them > > ever coming in. I have ordered the new trim kit from WCM and and it > > will > > be in next week, but I still need some clips.(they still have about > > nine > > of these kits in stock for cars with side markers) Soooooo......( > > here > > comes the sucking up part!).... as I have done many times before I am > > appealing to you wonderfull people out there for help. I have a total > > of > > four of these clips and need about ten more. I will take any quantity > > you have even if it is only one or two. > > > > I also ordered the Bus window scrapers to retro fit to my type 3 > > doors. > > Does anyone have any insight on getting these things installed. > > > > Dana Hall > > 65 Notch Sunroof > > 77 Beetle > > 78 Bus > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Rocker Panel Trim Clips. > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:07:25 EDT > From: HBakr@aol.com > To: dhall@inco.net > CC: TYPE3@vwtype3.org > > When all else fails you can try bits of coat hanger wire, after a little bit > of shaping and bending, they should snap right in. Just my 1c worth. good luck > > HB > 70 SQ(w/some coat hanger clips > otherwise stock) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: unsubscribe > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 11:09:08 MST7MDT > From: "Philip Dillard" <dillardp@edu-suu-lifac.li.suu.edu> > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > Unsubscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: RE: Rocker Panel Trim Clips. > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 98 10:29:11 PST8PDT > From: ccandgc@marinternet.com (Chad) > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > > > >Would those of a late model work??? if so, I've got a 71 square's > >worth.... > >> > > unfortunately, I dont think they will...theyre too small. I have > NOS rocker panel moldings for my 65 and 1 clip I found in the glove box. > Ive been looking too. Any ideas? Do the later years work? I dont > know if they do, as they are skinnier. > > Chad > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Rocker Panel Trim Clips. > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:36:37 -0400 > From: Dana Hall <dhall@inco.net> > To: "RJ Latherow ;" <RJLATHEROW@atlantic1.com> > CC: type3@vwtype3.org > > RJ Latherow wrote: > > > > Would those of a late model work??? if so, I've got a 71 square's > > worth.... > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dana Hall [SMTP:dhall@inco.net] > > > Sent: Friday, July 10, 1998 12:29 PM > > > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > > Subject: Rocker Panel Trim Clips. > > > > > > OK... I have exhausted all of my avenues and had my dreams dashed > > > twice > > > now attempting to find the trim clips for my 65 Notch. A local Body > > > shop > > > supply store told me they could order them (BMW look alikes) twice and > > > so far they have been backordered for months with little chance of > > > them > > > ever coming in. I have ordered the new trim kit from WCM and and it > > > will > > > be in next week, but I still need some clips.(they still have about > > > nine > > > of these kits in stock for cars with side markers) Soooooo......( > > > here > > > comes the sucking up part!).... as I have done many times before I am > > > appealing to you wonderfull people out there for help. I have a total > > > of > > > four of these clips and need about ten more. I will take any quantity > > > you have even if it is only one or two. > > > > > > I also ordered the Bus window scrapers to retro fit to my type 3 > > > doors. > > > Does anyone have any insight on getting these things installed. > > > > > > Dana Hall > > > 65 Notch Sunroof > > > 77 Beetle > > > 78 Bus > I may be wrong but I think the newer cars had a smaller width trim > piece. If anyone knows for sure let me know. BTW did you get the Carb > part I sent ya? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: FW: Rocker Panel Trim Clips. > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:50:04 -0400 > From: Gurrola_J <Gurrola_J@BLS.GOV> > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > ---------- > From: Gurrola_J > Sent: Friday, July 10, 1998 11:43 AM > To: 'Type3@vwtypw3.org' > Subject: RE: Rocker Panel Trim Clips. > Importance: High > > DHall wrote: > "also ordered the Bus window scrapers to retro fit to my type 3 doors. > Does anyone have any insight on getting these things installed." > > I installed them on my squareback. They need to be trimmed from the > front part nearest the vent wing windows. Go to a junk yard that has > wrecked busses and the'll have boxes of used scrappers. You can use the > "thingy" that holds into the door that came in the bus. It will require > some cutting to shorten it on the vent wing side and a little bending on > the door latch side. Let me know. It will not be factory fit, no > matter how hard you try and you will be dissappointed at how awful it > fits. But that's all we have and where else are going to find anything > even close? I was very disappointed at how badly the outside scrapers > I got form WCM fit. I can't believe they charge that much for th crap. > I wouldn't paying it if the crap fit properly. My soap box is ready to > collapse. Goto go. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Rocker Panel Trim Clips. > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:46:21 EDT > From: USMC3011@aol.com > To: dhall@inco.net, type3@vwtype3.org > > I was just wondering couldn't the clips from beetle running board trim be used > or is tha just too easy?? JARHEAD > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: mexican engine questions! > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:26:30 EDT > From: ZzZxXt3@aol.com > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > Does anyone know if you can buy a brand spankin new motor in Mexico that > they > put in the new beetles (not Concept 1). If so is it still just a stock > 1600cc??? I have > wondered this and would rather have a new engine than a rebuilt one if I can. > > Thanx, > Chris > 68 fastback > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: mexican engine questions! > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 20:47:56 +0100 > From: "Damian M. Clement" <damian@vwtype3.demon.co.uk> > To: type3@vwtype3.org > CC: type3@vwtype3.org > > Chris, > > try the following company http://www.beetlemex.com/ > > Damian > In message <3b8d7d09.35a66ae7@aol.com>, ZzZxXt3@aol.com writes > > Does anyone know if you can buy a brand spankin new motor in Mexico that > >they > >put in the new beetles (not Concept 1). If so is it still just a stock > >1600cc??? I have > >wondered this and would rather have a new engine than a rebuilt one if I can. > > > > > >Thanx, > >Chris > >68 fastback > > > > -- > Damian M. Clement > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: UGH!!!!! doing that vin number twist... > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:45:47 -0400 > From: noddaz@juno.com (scott a keck) > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > >Yes, the old confusion between MODEL numbers and CHASSIS numbers (AKA > >VINs.) I still don't have the model number thing straight even in my > >OWN head. This is one place where I think VW did a bad job: all > >their numbers look alike, model #s, VINs, part #s. > > > >Jim > > You sure have that right!!! > > Scott > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: fuel overflow hose > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:48:45 EDT > From: Sonny8oy@aol.com > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > top tip: > if yours is perished and you need a new one, look around your local junkyard > at beetles and you should find a decent hose that fits perfectly. it's inside > the trunk, so hasn't been exposed to 30 years of the elements, and is already > kinked to the right shape. > > and $1 is chepaer than $30.... > > sonny > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: stainless brake hoses > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:50:15 EDT > From: Sonny8oy@aol.com > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > why should stainless brake hoses be illegal (in some places)? > aren't they better than the rubber ones? > maybe they're more prone to catastrophic failure, rather than starting to > dribble a bit? > > sonny > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Carb Rebuild > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:47:40 -0400 > From: Gurrola_J <Gurrola_J@BLS.GOV> > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > OK, Thanks to all who put in thier 2 cents worth on my leaky fule inlet > on my carb. Well, as I removed the top of the carb I noticed how much > corrosion there was in the float bowl. Then I took off the accelerator > pump and there was a nice semi-circle of corrosion in there. Well, I > realized, having bought the motor used, that it must have sat a long > time exposed to the elements. I now must rebuild it since I'm sure that > if put it back together now without a good cleaning that stuff that got > loose would find its way into a jet or other orifice. > > I have never actually performed one of these by myself. I understand > that I will need compressed air to blow out the passages and I need a > good carb cleaning solvent. Can anyone offer any pitfalls or other > perils I should look out for? I will be attempting this on Saturday. > Wish me luck. > > How did I ever get into this?!! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: stainless brake hoses > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 02:03:24 -0700 > From: Toby Basiliko <toby@wolfenet.com> > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > Nope, oddly, > The illegality stems from the DOT rating, that's all! I guess the DOT > requires a 5000psi test (I'm not sure of that number) and some > manufacturers don't test their hoses per the DOT method and go to the > hassle of getting a rating. But some do, and are accordingly LEGAL! I > haven't seen any VW legal hoses, but I do have a set on my Volvo 122 > that are 'legal'. > Go figure. > They are a bit more suceptable to abrasion, but then, are a lot less > prone to cracking, and give a more solid pedal... > > What I've heard, > Toby B > > Sonny8oy@aol.com wrote: > > > > why should stainless brake hoses be illegal (in some places)? > > aren't they better than the rubber ones? > > maybe they're more prone to catastrophic failure, rather than starting to > > dribble a bit? > > > > sonny > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: rocker panel trm clips found. > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 02:14:20 GMT > From: Street Bugs <strtbug@ibm.net> > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > hi all im a it of a slacker and havent been up on the e-mail game but i was > in irvine CA for the Classic this past time and found a guy with a big ol > box of rocker moulding clips both stock and aftermarket. the stocks are as > you remember and love them, the aftermarket are like the late model moulding > clips they seal the hole to not let water in the rocker and hold that trim > where it needs to be. the place is called: > kustom 1 warehouse > 1314 W. Collins Ave., > Orange, CA 92867 > ph#714-997-9893 > fax# 714-289-0893 > > sorry i didnt get a price. but he had a good amount of early and late t-3 > goodies. all i bought from him were empi antenna balls 2 for a buck. yep im > a big spender alright. c-ya and good luck. > > btw im looking for the seat rail pins for my 66 square. these are the pins > that hold the seat rail guide on. also i do have 1 real good used set of > seat rails if some one needs them. i will trade for pins plus a few bucks. > c-ya Jonce > Jonce Fancher > 56 singlecab > 66 sunroof bug very nice for sale > 66 variant square back > 71 sunroof bus > 92 jetta gl winter car > 94 ford probe GT (wifes car) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: fuel overflow hose > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 22:37:40 -0600 > From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org> > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > > if yours is perished and you need a new one, look around your local junkyard > > at beetles and you should find a decent hose that fits perfectly. it's inside > > the trunk, so hasn't been exposed to 30 years of the elements, and is already > > kinked to the right shape. > > Sorry, but there is no similar part on beetles. The part that is > needed here is 311 201 179 A or C. Cars up to mid 72 with quarter > turn gas caps get the A version, the later cars with screw in > gas caps get the C version. > > I would estimate that every type 3 out there with this hose older > than 10 years needs a new one. It is very important to replace it > before the gas tank accumulates enough water and dirt to damage the > fuel system. > > Jim > - > ******************************* > Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org > Madison, Wisconsin, USA > ******************************* > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Fiberglass bashing ( a bit long - sorry) > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 22:37:40 -0600 > From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org> > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > > Hello all. I just had to get my .03 cents in here. I have to first say that > > I don't necessarily disagree with many of the specific comments made about > > fiberglass for structural parts. I do however disagree with the > > generalization that is kind of forming the fiberglass parts are no good. > > This was a good post and I agree with every bit of it. The point I > would make is that fiberglass CAN be used to make good structural > pieces, but that the pieces need to be designed carefully with the > characteristics of fiberglass in mind, particularly at joints. > > Since we are talking here about replacing parts that were originally > designed in steel, it is important to understand that these parts > were designed with the characteristics of steel in mind. If I just > copy those in fiberglass it will never be acceptable. > > Thus there will never be a good way to attach the seat rails to a > fiberglass pan, because these were designed to be attached at a few > discrete points, bad design for fiberglass. > > Jim > - > ******************************* > Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org > Madison, Wisconsin, USA > ******************************* > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: questions.... > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 22:37:40 -0600 > From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org> > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > > I was messing around with the pedal assembly, and the > > pedal fell foreward and the cable managed to come loose. How do I reconnect > > it?? > > Either disconnect the trany end of the cable, or wedge it forward, or > have a helper hold it forward while you rehook it. To rehook it you > have to remove the two bolts that attach it to the side of the > tunnel, pull it out, and pull the eye out where you can get the hook > into it again. > > Live and learn. > > > I bought remanufactured late model calipers from Bill & Steve's, and they > > had only 1 bleeder valve on them. Is that normal? I thought they had 2. Well, > > I put them on, with the bleeder valve on the down side. Is this ok? Should it > > be on the top? Does it make a difference? > > Bleeders are necessary on the top, AND there are cutouts on the face > of the pistons that must face a certain way WRT (with respect to) the > brake rotor rotation. If you mount the calipers on the wrong sides > (upside down) you won't be able to bleed the air out of the system > AND the pads won't wear parallel. Yes it makes a difference. Live > and learn. > > Jim > - > ******************************* > Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org > Madison, Wisconsin, USA > ******************************* > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: stainless brake hoses > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 22:37:40 -0600 > From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org> > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > > They are a bit more suceptable to abrasion, but then, are a lot less > > prone to cracking, and give a more solid pedal... > > I doubt if any of the differences can be perceived in under 10-15 > years. Some of the early teflon brake hoses used larger ID tubing > which actually led to MORE spongyness, but those manufacturers may > have learned their lesson by now. > > These hoses are a perfect example of something with little or no real > benefit that can still be sold to an unsuspecting and uninformed > consumer since they incorporate a few magic words, in this case > Teflon and Stainless Steel are the magic words. Think about it. > When was the last time you had a problem with corrosion in your > flexible brake lines; when was the last time you felt that your flex > hoses either had too much friction or deteriorated in too short a > time. I find a 20-30 year lifetime quite acceptable, and it is by no > means clear that the Teflon hoses will do better. > > In my opinion, by far the worst thing about these hoses is the fact > that they don't come with the correct metric end fittings, so > adaptors are often needed at both ends. These ARE often a problem. > I should add that I have not looked at these in many years, so it is > possible that someone has tooled up to provide the proper fittings. > > Does someone know? > > Jim > - > ******************************* > Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org > Madison, Wisconsin, USA > ******************************* > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: questions.... > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 98 21:47:37 PST8PDT > From: ccandgc@marinternet.com (Chad) > To: type3@vwtype3.org > > > > >Either disconnect the trany end of the cable, or wedge it forward, or > >have a helper hold it forward while you rehook it. To rehook it you > >have to remove the two bolts that attach it to the side of the > >tunnel, pull it out, and pull the eye out where you can get the hook > >into it again. > > Are those the two bolts on the tunnel behind or near the gas pedal? > Theres a hole back there?.....ok, I'll give it a shot! > > > > >Live and learn. > > > > > >Bleeders are necessary on the top, AND there are cutouts on the face > >of the pistons that must face a certain way WRT (with respect to) the > >brake rotor rotation. If you mount the calipers on the wrong sides > >(upside down) you won't be able to bleed the air out of the system > >AND the pads won't wear parallel. Yes it makes a difference. Live > >and learn. > > Well....that explains the never ending supply of air in them! Im gonna > have to switch the sides around. > > Thanks Jim!! > I have learned!! Next time, I'll know!! > > Chad > >