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> > * Not with a VIN number that starts with a "311". That would be a > >1971 and > > * no other.... > > > >Hmm. Check this. Straight from the list. > > >Model designations, Typ 3, all models (US & European - includes UK): > > > >Model No. Name Production details > > > >311 VW 1600 TL August > >1965-1973, LHD > >311 VW 1600 T August > >1968-1973, LHD > >Do what you will with it! > >Patrick > > And I will do what I will with it! The key here is that this list refers > to model numbers, not VIN numbers. 311 being of course a fastback. And > now to quote from the book of Muir... Yes, the old confusion between MODEL numbers and CHASSIS numbers (AKA VINs.) I still don't have the model number thing straight even in my OWN head. This is one place where I think VW did a bad job: all their numbers look alike, model #s, VINs, part #s. Jim - ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA *******************************