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In a message dated 98-07-06 02:04:01 EDT, you write: << intermittend ly at the same pace to you can get that little arm inside moving back and forth and when you hear is clicking the 12oclock has to be up at all times or it will stop. >> This is something I would be very interested in, its just too bad that I cant understand what the hay you are trying to say, man. Can you say this again a little SLOWER, please Thenx HB