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The big differences between a type 3 (pancake) and a typeI/II upright motor are dipstick placement (easy to remedy on a universal case), engine tin, fan and the oil cooling apparati (maybe I missed some small stuff). The point is that type 1-3 motors are essentially the same as far as mounting points go. I have never attempted to see if the tin from a type 1 would fit on a type3, but my guess is that it would. This idea does concern me though, as these tins were never designed to cool a motor in the confines of a type3 engine bay. The engine tin and fan shroud flaps in a type3 have all been optimized to cool your motor utilizing those little air fins on the side of your car. They funnel air into the fan and do a damn fine job of keeping your air cooled car breathing. I guess you could go to a doghouse type oil cooler and retain your type 3 tin and fan, but figuring out how to mate a type1 generator/alternator to a type 3 fan (belt length and alignment) seems like too much effort. It just seems that all this trouble would end up in a lot of extra expense and lost space for no gain in performance or convenience. My question to you is: Why would you give up your rear trunk when all of the parts to build a great performing, reliable, type3 motor are all available in ready quantities? Stay free, stay type3, baby! Kenik Hassel > From: Splattman@aol.com > To: type-3@umich.edu > Subject: upright engines in a type3 > Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 5:26 PM > > I was reading the new Vw trends and noticed a very nice looking Notchback that > was made into a convertible. But I couldn't help notice that there was an > upright engine in the Notch. Is this possible? Would it be a good idea? I'm > just wondering. > > Splatt > > 72 Fastback