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I say a 40mm carb is too big, especially for a stock engine -- a 34 or 36 would probably give better mileage and smoother acceleration. Our manifolds are just too short to fully reap the power of big carbs like what's found on the upright engines. Now, if you use the same carbs and convert them to FI, well, then you'll really get those horses kickin'. Of course, FI is a more evolved creature. Toby Erkson email@example.com <-- Please use this address for email responses '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L '75 Porsche 914 1.8L, ORPCA member Portland, Oregon, http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8501/ ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: performance Author: firstname.lastname@example.org at SMTPGATE_MIME Date: 2/18/98 1:12 PM Guys, Unless you are dead set on expensive performance try this: 1600DP, Stock heads, 1.4 ratios, Dual 40's, 7.5:1 compression and a good extractor. It has all added up to 78hp with 100,000 reliability and 24mph. All bolt on, all practical exept the carbs- You need them on a "performance motor" anyway. Also, a single port 1600 with this is still a good daily, torkey(sp?) motor. Brian 65 Notch 69 Sqaure 71 Square 62 Crew--No sale:@( Any one what it?