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My memory, gotta just luv it... First, it's Griot's Garage. He sells good stuff buts it's on the high side. The pyrometer is from Automotion, a kick-butt company that sells all sorts of Porsche stuff and has a really great catalog. The pyrometer sells for $250 and Automotion can be found on the web at 'http://automotion.com'. Toby Erkson, air_cooled_nut@pobox.com '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L '75 Porsche 914 1.8L Portland, Oregon, http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8501/ ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re[2]: gauges Author: type-3-errors@umich.edu at SMTPGATE Date: 9/25/97 5:38 PM (blah blah blahh)... I like the idea of a pyrometer. Garott's Garage (something like that) sells them I believe but the price is a little high and it's only for spot checking -- what we need is a device that images the whole engine surface and shows temps according to color, much like a temperature weather map! (yappity yappity yappity)...