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Jason is correct as I have bought disc pads for many years and the set never came with the mentioned springs. I find this sorta weird since all the manuals I've read say to replace the springs when putting in new pads! The springs are spreader springs and aside from keeping the pads from rattling around they assist in keeping the pads away from the disc when you are not braking. Jase- thanks for the store, part number and price -- good follow through! Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com modified '72 VW Squareback 2.0L stock '75 Porsche 914 1.8L ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re[2]: Need brake part Author: type-3-errors@umich.edu at SMTPGATE Date: 12/30/96 2:09 PM I just changed my pads about two months ago and they did not come with new springs. I just now got off of the phone with the Flaps. I wanted to see if I got shorted those springs in my set of pads. The guy there checked and none of his pad sets come with the springs. He also checked to see if he could order any. He couldn't even find a part number. So I called the local N.A.P.A store. Their part number is 82-119 and they cost 5.98 for the set of four. They are listed as anti-rattle clips. Jason Renville