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I dont want to piss off anyone but I have an original 1961 VW parts manual which is in mint condition and has the listings and pictures of the Type 3 Karmann Ghia convertible roof in it as well as the first model year of the Notch. If anyone ever needs any information out of it like I have already done for Big Al, please give me a holler. I also have another T3 one from 1965 which includes the 'S', the Panel van and all sorts of other goodies. See ya'll later! Aaron. -- \|/ @ @ +-----------------o00-(_)-00o---------------------------+ | Aaron Britcher MOBILE: 0418 807 160 | | <abritcher@ezinet.com.au> HOME: +61 (0)8 8265 3363 | | | | "If you can't say anything \/ | | sensible, talk to me!" \/\/ | +-------------------------------------------------------+