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Patrick's contact info is below. Regarding the sea blue numbers one & two, it's just something that Patrick mentioned; apparently some of his T3 literature describes slightly different shades of sea blue used at the same time at different factories! My information is second hand--but was interesting enough to pass along. :) ------------------------------------------------------------ PATRICK DICKMAN BEFORE 10PM HOME # (209)848-VWT3 PACIFIC ANYTIME CELL # (209)471-8878 STANDARD VOICE MAIL SAME AS CELL# TIME ------------------------------------------------------------ -Greg '71 squareback '63 Beetle