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hello greg, i am trying this again.i think the 1st message didnt go through. ---------- > From: mailer-daemon@redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu > To: vychand@IHUG.CO.NZ > Subject: undeliverable mail > Date: Thursday, 11 December 1997 20:52 > > The following errors occurred when trying to deliver the attached mail: > > typr-3: User unknown > > ------- The original message sent: > > Received: from bofh.ihug.co.nz (bofh.ihug.co.nz [203.29.160.26]) > by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id CAA29342 > for <typr-3@umich.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 02:52:34 -0500 (EST) > Received: from vychand.ihug.co.nz (p54-max1.auck.ihug.co.nz [202.49.255.54]) by bofh.ihug.co.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA26217 for <typr-3@umich.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 20:52:06 +1300 > Message-Id: <199712110752.UAA26217@bofh.ihug.co.nz> > From: "vernon chand" <vychand@ihug.co.nz> > To: <typr-3@umich.edu> > Subject: lower or not to lower(long) > Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 20:51:20 +1300 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Priority: 3 > X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > hello all you nutters(type 3 of course!) > > i have been reading with interest the discussion on lowering and lowered > type three's, over the last few days. > > to follow is my experience with a radically lowered '71 fastback or,for > that matter a radically modified car. > > at the beginning of '95 i started law school and had to travel for 45 > minutes each way to get to my lectures.i had a '54 beetle then and after 2 > months > i decided that i didnt want some idiot destroying > my pride and joy,so i put the beetle away as a 'sunday driver'. > > to cut a long story short,i ended up buying a '71 fastback.this car was > low,very low.it had an 1835cc jazzy performance motor in it and boy did it > go!2 weeks after i bought the car i had a similar experience to what keith > had with his friends car.i thought enough was enough and took the car to > one of my friends in the local vw club.at that point the suspension was so > low that the car would bang and crash, as you went over bumps that normally > would not make you brace yourself.yes folks,i am talking about stiffening > your body up when you see a bump ahead!sometimes i would drive down the > road as if i was doing a gymkana! > > well,we raised the suspension back up to factory setting,front and rear.at > the front the suspension was relowered 1 notch and i think the rear was > relowered 1 spline.this was far better than the previous arrangement.at the > same time we put in urethane bushes all round,new shocks and then i took > the car to the local vw shop to get them to organise a wheel alignment.when > i got the car back the difference was incredible(well it couldnt have been > any worse!).from memory the vw shop charged me for odds and ends e.g ball > joints for lowered cars etc.etc. > i enjoyed the car for 6 months after that and then sold it to pay my law > school fees for the following year. > > my point is this-there is nothing wrong with lowering a car if the > following are taken into account; > > .do not lower so much as to induce discomfort,tire rub,terrible > handling,hanging out of the window etc. > .change the shocks to suit eg. lowered gas shocks to suit radical > lowering(although radical lowering is not recommended for a daily driver) > .check and change bushes as necessary > .choose good tires > .change parts if necessary eg.special balljoints for lowered cars etc. > .get a wheel alignment done straightaway.when i got mine done i vaguely > remember the guy saying something about getting close to factory setting.if > commonsense dictates this sounds right, as the car would have been > engineered to handle everyday,different terrain, driving on one alignment > setting. > .last but not least there are plenty of manufacturers who have designed and > made parts to suit lowered cars so so your research. > > anyway people,that is my bit for the week.have a great weekend. > > regards > vern > '63 notch(lowered and soon to have aftermarket f1) > '67 beetle(soon to have an fi 1776cc) > '57 oval(standard!)