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When I bought my adjustable spring plates I found out that there are different sizes. The late model T3 uses the biggest torsion bars (biggest diameter) that the Beetle used (I don't remember the exact size). Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L '75 Porsche 914 1.8L for sale Portland, Oregon http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8501/ ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: axles and bars Author: type-3-errors@umich.edu at SMTPGATE Date: 8/27/97 7:14 PM While I have everyones attention.. especially after that lame attempt to be funny with the "Hooked on Phonics Worked for Me" in German. ;-P Can anyone provide me with lengths for the front and rear torsion bars and axles on late model Squares? Specifically 1971 Yes, I will be buying a Bentlys book in the very near future. ;-) Thanks! --- John T. Croteau {jt@geekopolis.com} Founder, geekopolis.com - Minneapolis, MN - http://www.geekopolis.com