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Thanks for the info, and then some! I had no idea technical German was different than "normal" German (I have a friend who speaks German and two cousins who *are* German so I am aware of the different dialects). I must say, I am envious that the Europeans emphasize multi-lingustics in their schooling -- I wish the US would wake up. But, I deviate from the topic at hand... Oh yeah, I live in Portland, Oregon (Californians, you DON'T pronounce the 'e' :p""" ) which is part of the Great Northwest in the USA (the 45th Parallel bisects the state, if that helps). Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com modified '72 Squareback 2.0L stock '75 Porsche 914 1.8L ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: Squareback heat exchangers? Author: thepen@pi.net at SMTPGATE Date: 10/25/96 1:29 AM > G'day Toby, Don't worry I ain't gonna flame you as you're basically right (might burn ya bum though). I wrote that message as Patrick lives in 'Suomi'. If my geographical and linguistical knowledge doesn't let my down that's Finland in.........Europe !!!! But what the heck, the internet is international ain't it. The problem however, is that 80% of the people on the net are based in the US and they never put down where they are. ...