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Larry, The little "Thingies" you refer to are on the Type 14 and 34, but not on the rest of the Type 3 line. Type 3's only have 2 "hooks" mounted to the window frame which are inserted into two slots in the window opening on the body. Type 3's don't have little "thingies"... But we all know "size" doesn't count. :) Big Al awpresley@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~awpresley/hvwc1.html